Welcome to the Coach Training Podcast by the Academy for Coaching Excellence, where we dive deep into the transformative power of coaching with Dr. Maria Nemeth, Master Certified Coach and founder of the Academy. This podcast pulls back the curtain on the world of professional coaching, offering a unique blend of real, unscripted coaching sessions and candid conversations with industry leaders. Whether you're an aspiring coach seeking ICF accreditation, a seasoned professional looking to enhance your skills, or simply curious about the coaching process, this podcast provides valuable insights and practical tools to elevate your coaching practice. Dr. Nemeth guides you through the essence of ontological coaching, helping clients and coaches alike to overcome internal barriers and achieve meaningful, lasting change. Join us as we explore what makes coaching truly transformative, offering inspiration, key takeaways, and a glimpse into how coaching can profoundly impact your life and the lives of those you serve. Subscribe to the playlist and discover how you can empower yourself and others on the path to becoming a successful, accredited coach.In this episode of The Coach Training Podcast, hosted by Master Certified Coach and founder of the Academy for Coaching Excellence, Dr. Maria Nemeth, we dive into the heart of ontological coaching with a powerful, unscripted session. Listen as a client courageously navigates the internal barriers holding them back from sharing their voice through writing, and witness how transformative coaching can empower you to move beyond self-doubt and into action. This episode is particularly relevant for aspiring and professional coaches seeking ICF accreditation who want to understand how ontological coaching can be a game-changer in their practice. Dr. Nemeth's coaching approach offers deep insights into how to train your brain, overcome negativity bias, and focus on creating impactful, lasting change for yourself and your clients. Two key ontological principles of the ACE coaching model are highlighted in this session: Having compassion for your brain The power of "I am willing" If you're committed to becoming a successful, accredited coach, this episode will provide you with both inspiration and practical tools to enhance your coaching journey. Tune in and discover how you can empower others while standing for your own creative legacy.
Hi everyone. Welcome to the Coach Training podcast. We're taking a peek behind the scenes of the coaching world with some real coaching sessions and honest chats with top folks in the industry. I'm Doctor Maria Nemeth, your guide and the founder of the Academy for Coaching Excellence. Ever curious about what makes coaching truly transformative?
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So buckle up. Get ready for some inspiration and key takeaways that could really up your coaching game. Let's get started.
Hi, everyone. This is doctor Maria and you're listening to the coach training podcast. The, um, coaching sessions we have here, they are unscripted, uh, unrehearsed, and represent real live coaching that our very courageous, uh, guests are allowing me to coach them,
with whatever they bring to the table. And,
today I am so happy and privileged to have, uh, you, Jonathan,
to step up to the plate and to let me coach you.
for all of you, I know this is,
um, not a visual podcast. You can hear our voices, but if you could see it, I'd love to say that jonathan has the best smile. I just love it.
Thank you so much.
Listen, it's such a pleasure, uh, to coach you. So take a moment and look, uh, at for yourself reflected, um,
because I know there's something, some result you'd love to produce in our time together.
Well, uh,
right now for me, something that is really important and that's
I wanted to bring for this conversation, is the idea of writing a blog.
Mhm.
Longer forms of content for the Internet.
It's been something that I'm doing right now with short videos on Instagram.
It's been a win that I've been consistent with doing it, but I have this feeling that it's just
too brief and I really want to give people
more depth into my ideas.
This is wonderful.
And it's very courageous, isn't it?
Yeah.
You know, um,
I imagine all sorts of things go through your mind as you, as you even contemplate this. And, um,
the question is, um, given all that, given all that,
how might, how might I best support.
Well, since this
is an idea that I would say it's more concrete
and it's, uh, with me for at least a month right now,
I noticed that what's possibly being in the way of me doing more of this is some internal conversation. And that's the reason why I imagine
bringing this to coaching would help, because the result would be
really publishing and writing those texts more consistently, or not even more consistently, but starting out. Ah.
Uh, yes. Even one would be a, uh, win, wouldn't it?
Yeah. We need to start somewhere.
Exactly. And what are you experiencing as you're saying that to me?
Well, I.
When I think about the idea of doing this, I experience a lot of joy. Mhm.
Um.
Um,
and some tension as well.
Of course.
Of course.
So
a great result would be. If I can reflect back, a great result would be that, uh. Uh, because of our conversation,
you will write your first edition of your blog.
Perfect, right?
Exactly. Yeah.
And I hear that on one hand, you're experiencing a lot of.
Joy, uh.
And lightness and probably that creative spark. Yes.
Yeah.
And on the other hand,
there are those other,
uh, conversations inside,
and, um,
when you listen to them, they make you feel nervous.
let me say something.
I'd be worried about you if you weren't nervous.
Because this is a new venture. It's an adventure.
And you're standing right,
before a journey.
And I'll bet you can see the road stretching out.
And
it's the beginning of the journey. That is worrisome. Yes.
Just taking that first step.
Yeah. Uh, taking the first step. And.
And I will also add that, uh, the conversation that I'm having internally, it's also related to the results of it.
Some worry around
writing and not having anyone reading it. Something along with that.
Yeah. It's like, uh, throwing a party and inviting people and no one shows up.
Exactly.
There's always that risk.
Mhm.
So, you know, there's always a risk that
people may come, they may not come.
And yet, at the same time,
you're taking a stand
for your ideas.
Well, um, it's the first time that I'm seeing it like this.
Yeah. What do you see?
Well, I believe that ideas are like the most beautiful and powerful thing we have.
Mhm.
And
writing down what I have
is at the same time standing for what I believe. And at the same moment, I would say it's
creating some legacy as well, of.
Ah, uh, yes.
What I believe to be true. And.
And also for me to really organize,
what I believe, it's also important. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Wow.
Big, isn't it?
It is,
And if you could summarize this experience in one sentence, what might it be?
My current experience or
the joyful experience of legacy and standing for my ideas?
Uh, the one of. Stand? Yes, the one about standing for your ideas and the legacy. We can get into that other stuff later, but just let's be clear about what the drive is. What the. What's in your heart about this?
I really want to help people
in having a transformation in their lives in the way that I experienced through coaching, through ace, and through my work right now.
And.
Yeah, this is important. Many levels. One of them is having more people connected with what I do.
Mhm.
Not only to grow my business, but also to give value to people who are already connected to me. Them, um, to know
new possibilities for their lives and how coaching can also help them or people they know.
This is so beautiful.
And I can see by the look on your face that what you're saying really
has some depth for you, really
so.
Do you have a pen, a piece of paper?
Um, I can grab one, but I. Yeah, go drag as well.
Go for it. Better that you grab one.
Got it.
Okay. I got it.
Perfect. You might be wondering why I'm asking you to write something rather than putting it on your computer.
I'll tell you why.
I'm going to suggest that
you might write down a sentence right now that
That captures
the essence of what you're up to in this blog. Now, it may not be a perfect sentence.
All that's necessary is that whatever you write is coming from your heart.
Okay? And the reason I ask you to write something is because it has your energy in it.
You see,
there's nothing like when you are
taking a stand for what you believe in.
Like you just said,
there's nothing like getting it down
and trying to put it in one sentence. Now, it might go to two sentences, no big deal, but that
you're writing the essence of what you stand for. With this blog,
what would it be like just to put pen to paper?
I can see you're writing something.
Yeah, it's helping me think. So I guess I have something. It's just there's one last part that I am wrapping, um, up.
So keep going, please.
I'm just saying that for people who are listening to us, listening to you and me talking, now that, um, you are taking that action of actually writing something down
from your heart.
Take your time, please.
Okay. I have something.
I knew you would.
So,
it's about growing a community.
Of.
Uh, magical life, life possibilities.
Is that what you wrote?
Yeah. Magical life possibilities.
That is.
I love it.
is it in a sentence form?
Uh, right now, what I exactly wrote is growing a community of magical life possibilities.
Great.
What is it? What is it like when you read this?
It's
so beautiful and energizing at the same time.
It is, isn't it?
It's
great.
Now,
I'd like you to have, uh, a piece of paper right now, another piece that you can actually tear up.
Got it.
I have it.
Perfect. Yeah, I love it. Now, draw a box on that page.
you know, a good sized box.
And in that box,
I'm going to ask you to write out
all or as many right now of your doubts and worries
and your anxieties about this. This takes some time. Now write them down.
And I appreciate you so much for doing this, Jonathan.
You so much for guiding me and helping me with it.
Listen, I'm learning a lot from you,
what it is to really take a beautiful stand for what you're doing.
let's not
divert, uh, you from this thing. Write down your doubts and worries,
any fears that you have. I think you said one of them was that no, uh, one will read it.
That's the first one I wrote.
Oh, good. So we're on track here.
Uh, okay. Have it.
Wonderful.
I'm going to ask you to read these doubts and worries, the things that have been swirling around. Remember, uh, these are normal and natural kinds of
stuff that comes up when we're about to do something new, you know, something that, uh,
we've never done before.
And our, uh, brain says, don't do it.
m too dangerous,
you know, remembering m that
you are not your brain. We are not our brains.
You have two eyes, a nose, a mouth and a brain.
You
and I and all of us, we are that which can train our brain, can shape the brain,
which is
really. It's such a powerful relationship that we can develop with our brain.
And one of the reasons that I'm asked, I have asked you to write down your doubts and worries is got to get this out to see what the brain has been saying to you before we go on. It's got to be something that you can see. And I'm going to ask you to read them out loud, please, all m of them.
You know, this is a real contribution that you're doing this.
Thank you so much. Yeah.
Okay, so
the first one that I wrote, as you read in my mind is, what if I spend time writing it and no one reads?
Beautiful. That's perfect.
Which, huh, has similarity with the second one, which is, what if it takes energy from other things that I should be doing?
Oh, yes. That's a good one.
And the third one is, what if I
do all of this to be able to help people and understand more deeply what I'm saying and,
you know, somehow people don't like, and I feel stupid or shallow and what I'm sharing.
Mhm.
I hear it
now. What is your experience as you are reading this?
What does it feel like?
It feels like
the brain is telling me this is the truth. This is 100% going to happen. You need to avoid it.
To just get a little, uh,
analytical about this. Right now.
what you're experiencing is called the negativity bias. That aspect of our brain
wants to keep us out of danger.
It's a kind of primitive response going back thousands of years
when our brain really needed to protect us from predators.
But that mechanism is still here.
So it's warning you. And it's saying, if I can reflect, it's saying, you've got to listen to this. This is the truth, right?
And it's.
Well, if I go dancing with it, it's. It will give you more and it m will share how it happened in the past somehow, so happen in the.
Future because of that. I do. Oh, my gosh. That sounds familiar to me as you're saying it
now.
Take that piece of paper and put it next to the statement you wrote,
that real heartfelt
statement.
Do you have it?
Yeah.
Please read that statement out loud again.
Growing a community of, uh, magical life.
Possible.
Possibilities.
God, how does that feel?
Wonderful.
It does, doesn't it?
Now, as, uh, you put these two conversations, we'll call it together, next to each other. Right. Because you've written one, you've written the other. So one is a conversation about hanging back. Don't do it. It's not going to work.
And all the other kinds of stuff. Right. As you said, if you really dwelled on it long enough, your brain could come up with stuff that would be variations on a theme.
Yes, exactly. Yeah.
you look at this other
beautiful, heartfelt statement
and remembering
that you
have the power to focus your brain wherever you want it to focus.
Which are you more interested in? Training your brain to focus on.
I'm thrilled that you're taking your time with this, so
Yeah. Growing a community of magical life possibilities.
Yeah.
And what I'm noticing is, just by looking at both of them,
that, uh,
even
the one that I want to follow, if I stay with it for. For a while,
I can even get some, um, creativity on how I can make this happen instead of more of the worries around. This is not going to happen because of x, y and z.
Exactly. So are you willing to tear up that other piece of paper into little pieces? The one about the doubts and worries right now, are you willing to tear it up?
I am willing.
Very good. And notice the energy that comes off of it as you tear it up.
What are you noticing?
M. Yeah. What is it? You just kind of gave a big sigh.
You're seeing something.
I'm standing with
the foundation of my life's work.
Mhm.
And I'm making a choice that it's
the one worth standing for.
It is, isn't it?
It is.
So after our time together,
I suggest that you do a couple of things.
This is your coach now,
giving, uh, you an assignment.
you know, sometimes,
uh, the assignment can come from you, you know, yourself. And right now I'm giving you just a special one. Uh, when we're finished,
throw that, those pieces of paper that you tore up, throw them in a trash can and take them outside of your building.
You have a trash place or something
where you can just toss them so you get it out of the place, the energy.
And
the one about growing a community of. You said magical possibilities.
Yeah, magical life possibility.
That's it. Okay, great. So
get, uh, do you, do you print very well?
Not that much. But, uh, if you are suggesting that I print and put in front of me, there is something that I can do, which is I have a wall in front of me where I can write things down when I do it. Um, I will show you. I'm sorry that people listening won't be able to see it, but,
um.
Oh, wow. I see it.
So this is in front of me and my work every day. So it's something that I can read every day if I write it down.
Wonderful. So are you willing to print it on that board someplace where you can read it every day?
I am willing.
Please.
make it big enough because you see what youre a. Doing is you are,
consciously
training your brain
by having it focus on where you want to have it focus on.
whenever those other voices come up,
have compassion for your brain. I know it sounds weird,
but you might want to have some compassion for your brain because it works so hard
and it just wants to protect you whether you need it or not, you know?
So just have a little compassion for it and then refocus
on that beautiful statement.
What do you say?
I'm up for it.
Yeah, you are.
once again, read that statement, uh, out loud.
I, uh, will add, I am willing to.
Great. So how does it sound then? Oh, I love it.
I am willing to grow a community of magical life possibilities.
That's gorgeous.
Absolutely.
I knew there was something missing.
Mhm.
That was the I'm willing.
Yeah, got it. Yes. Which is so,
energizing, isn't it? It's just so, uh,
full of, uh. That you are in it. You are doing it because you can be willing to do something you don't know how to do. You can be
uh, to do something that you, you're afraid won't work.
All that stuff.
I am willing. Kind of cancels all that out.
I am willing.
You know,
I've used that a lot in my life. I'll tell you, Jonathan, when I'm looking at something that my brain says, oh, Doctor Maria is not going to work.
course it calls me Maria, not doctor Maria. But you know, you get the gist of it and then
I
have compassion for this brain. And I say to myself, nevertheless, I'm willing.
Nevertheless, I'm willing.
you might want to look at by when you are willing to write your first blog piece.
I, uh, will post it by the end of next week.
Wonderful. Is there some place you can write that down
and give it an actual date.
By August 9,
I post
my first blog post.
Say, say the whole sentence out loud so that
all of us can hear it.
Awesome. So
by August 9,
I will post my first blog post.
Uh, what's that like for you to say? That.
Sounds fun, actually, in a good way, you know, mhm.
Comes with a lot more ease. It does inspect it.
Is there someone
or someones,
uh, that you are willing to support you in this?
Yes, there is. Uh, you know, there is a brilliant man called Greg who is also my mentor coach, who supported me in seeing that this was a possibility for me, uh, shared with him.
Great.
So, uh, I want to acknowledge you,
really, for demonstrating courage and
being, uh, willing
to, um, literally
look at.
You know, both sides of the equation,
all the doubts and worries and stuff that normally come up, and then looking at really what you're up to
and choosing to focus your brain there
and out of that,
empowering yourself
to set a date for your purse
blog post.
And I, uh, also want to thank you, Jonathan, for,
allowing me to,
lead you a little in this by suggesting that you do all these things that I did.
I always do that to empower people
to have magical life possibilities.
Yeah.
And you were just a demonstration for me of someone who's so,
uh, wonderfully easy to coach in that. But I just
uh, you to appreciate you.
And, um,
you know, it's
with a lot of joy that I say you have
seen this path in my life from the beginning. So
training the brain to be more coachable, it's actually a possibility. In the beginning, it was not that easy as it is, sweetie. But you gave me
a lot of presents, and, yeah, one of the greatest gifts was I am willing.
Thank you so much. So I'm looking forward to hearing,
how you're doing and reading your first blog post.
Okay.
And after this, uh, right now, after this, I will give you exactly where to send it so it gets right to me. Okay, perfect.
Thank you so much.
Yes. So I will actually
it to you.
And right now, I think this concludes
coaching session. Thank you so much, Jonathan.
Thank you. Bye.